Tuesday, October 15, 2019
Amazon.com: Tough Love: My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For (9781501189975): Susan Rice: Books
Amazon.com: Tough Love: My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For (9781501189975): Susan Rice: Books
Tough Love: My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For Hardcover – October 8, 2019
by Susan Rice (Author)
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Recalling pivotal moments from her dynamic career on the front lines of American diplomacy and foreign policy, Susan E. Rice—National Security Advisor to President Barack Obama and US Ambassador to the United Nations—reveals her surprising story with unflinching candor.
Mother, wife, scholar, diplomat, and fierce champion of American interests and values, Susan Rice powerfully connects the personal and the professional. Taught early, with tough love, how to compete and excel as an African American woman in settings where people of color are few, Susan now shares the wisdom she learned along the way.
Laying bare the family struggles that shaped her early life in Washington, DC, she also examines the ancestral legacies that influenced her. Rice’s elders—immigrants on one side and descendants of slaves on the other—had high expectations that each generation would rise. And rise they did, but not without paying it forward—in uniform and in the pulpit, as educators, community leaders, and public servants.
Susan too rose rapidly. She served throughout the Clinton administration, becoming one of the nation’s youngest assistant secretaries of state and, later, one of President Obama’s most trusted advisors.
Rice provides an insider’s account of some of the most complex issues confronting the United States over three decades, ranging from “Black Hawk Down” in Somalia to the genocide in Rwanda and the East Africa embassy bombings in the late 1990s, and from conflicts in Libya and Syria to the Ebola epidemic, a secret channel to Iran, and the opening to Cuba during the Obama years. With unmatched insight and characteristic bluntness, she reveals previously untold stories behind recent national security challenges, including confrontations with Russia and China, the war against ISIS, the struggle to contain the fallout from Edward Snowden’s NSA leaks, the U.S. response to Russian interference in the 2016 election, and the surreal transition to the Trump administration.
Although you might think you know Susan Rice—whose name became synonymous with Benghazi following her Sunday news show appearances after the deadly 2012 terrorist attacks in Libya—now, through these pages, you truly will know her for the first time. Often mischaracterized by both political opponents and champions, Rice emerges as neither a villain nor a victim, but a strong, resilient, compassionate leader.
Intimate, sometimes humorous, but always candid, Tough Love makes an urgent appeal to the American public to bridge our dangerous domestic divides in order to preserve our democracy and sustain our global leadership.
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“This is a breathtakingly honest account by a true American patriot about what it’s like to grow up with tough love and then deploy those values on behalf of our nation’s foreign policies. Weaving together the personal and the professional, Susan Rice describes how her upbringing in a distinguished but at times struggling family helped prepare her to be a fierce champion of American interests and survive the unfair attacks on her in the aftermath of the Benghazi tragedy. This book will not only inspire you about the true sources of America’s greatness, it will also provide some lessons in empowerment, tenacity, and fearlessness.” -Walter Isaacson, New York Times bestselling author of Leonardo da Vinci
Susan Elizabeth Rice is one of the most gifted, tenacious, and influential foreign policy voices of our times, and in her revelatory new memoir Tough Love, she takes us to the seats of power she’s occupied from the State Department to the United Nations to the West Wing of America’s first black president, whom she served as National Security Advisor. In reading these pages, it’s easy to see why President Obama would trust her to give him the clearest assessment of the facts on any day, at any moment, and to offer him unvarnished counsel on how best to keep the country safe. At the core of Rice’s story, and brilliant career, is a fearless commitment to the truth and an unwavering devotion to the lessons she inherited as the descendent of Jamaican immigrants in Maine and enslaved Africans in South Carolina: to prize education as the path up to the American Dream and to have the confidence to be herself. In this remarkably honest examination of the opportunities and struggles confronting those charged with national security, Rice has given us an inspiring autobiography while making a critically important addition to the history of U.S. foreign policy.— Henry Louis Gates, Jr., Harvard University
“In Tough Love, Susan Rice provides a compelling look at what it is really like to work in the inner sanctums of the White House and what it really means to walk the corridors of power. In a gripping display of humor and grace, Susan invites us all to share in her triumphs and her failures – and she teaches some important life lessons along the way. Reading Tough Love is like taking a master class in how to be a powerful woman. It is also a classic American tale, relatable to anyone who has ever dreamed of success. I was riveted from the first page of Tough Love to the last.” — Shonda Rhimes
“Susan Rice’s intellect, strategic prowess, and integrity are unrivalled among today’s national security leaders. I have seen firsthand how she has achieved vitally important results for American interests and values. Tough Love finally reveals who Susan Rice really is, much of which has been lost or misunderstood in public portrayals of her. The fearless, compassionate, funny and selfless woman whom I have known since she was a child emerges as she shares with bracing honesty her challenges with family, motherhood, and leadership in the most demanding of male-dominated fields.” — Madeleine Albright, Former Secretary of State
“Tough Love is a must-read for leaders and their teams. A brilliant, courageous woman with a remarkable personal story, Susan Rice provides a riveting and moving account of rising to the highest ranks in national security and diplomacy along with unmatched insight into the most complex global challenges. She offers a masterclass for all who aspire to excellence, with invaluable lessons about high performance leadership and effective management of complex teams in unforgiving circumstances. Her powerful, hopeful appeal to our shared values as Americans and all that we stand to gain by coming together is profoundly inspirational and more urgent than ever.” — Indra Nooyi, Former Chairman and CEO, PepsiCo
“The daughter of up-by-their bootstraps Jamaicans and African Americans, Rice achieved early success through disciplined hard work, intellectual brilliance, and friendships with the likes of Madeline Albright… Rice is able to look back on her experiences with pride, gratitude, and bracing realism.” Booklist, Starred Review
“A stellar debut...Rice writes of juggling work and motherhood, and of the importance of being one’s own advocate. Rice’s insightful memoir serves as an astute, analytical take on recent American political history.”
Publishers Weekly, Starred Review
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About the Author
Ambassador Susan E. Rice is currently Distinguished Visiting Research Fellow at the School of International Service at American University, a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, and a contributing opinion writer for The New York Times. She serves on the boards of Netflix and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts and previously served on several nonprofit boards, including the U.S. Fund for UNICEF.
Rice earned her master’s degree and doctorate in international relations from Oxford University, where she was a Rhodes Scholar, and her bachelor’s degree from Stanford University. A native of Washington, DC, and a graduate of the National Cathedral School for Girls, she is married to Ian Cameron; they have two children. Rice is an avid tennis player and a long-retired basketball player.
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Hardcover: 544 pages
Publisher: Simon & Schuster (October 8, 2019)
Language: English
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Karen
5.0 out of 5 starsInsightful & inspirational! Captivating from beginning to end!October 8, 2019
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I have read many autobiographies through the years. There were some that I truly enjoyed reading, and in all honesty, I will admit there were a few that I just could not get into and never finished reading. However, I have never read one that completely captured my attention throughout the entire book...an autobiography that pulled me in from the opening prologue and held my attention to the point that I read the entire book in one sitting. That all changed when I read Tough Love: My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For by Susan Rice.
The prologue takes place during the last few hours of the Obama administration, and is perfectly titled Farewell to the Moral Universe. Sadly, that title still fits today's divided political climate. She relays her skepticism on that day, as well as her hope that the new administration will be successful. She talks about the sadness she feels, as well as looking forward to the next chapter in her life.
Of course, there are some people that will never give this book a chance, and that is truly unfortunate. This book discusses politics, but the overall substance of this autobiography is so much more than just politics. Many people only know who Susan Rice is due to her appearance on the Sunday news shows back in 2012 regarding Benghazi, and her role within the Obama administration...they do not know about the journey she went through to get to there. Some people might be surprised to learn that in addition to her B.A, from Stanford University, she was a Rhodes Scholar and received her master's degree and doctorate from Oxford University. In this book, Susan Rice highlights in great detail how she became the woman she is today, and the important role her family played throughout her life.
Her family history is truly fascinating...one side descendants of slaves...one side immigrants...but all deeply devoted to family and all striving to become the best they can possibly be. At a time when race could hold a person of color back, her family overcame the obstacles and used their drive and determination to excel. She tells their stories with an openness that truly brings her intriguing family history to life. She is brutally honest as she relays their triumphs as well as their struggles, and how tough love was taught early on in all of their lives.
Susan covers just about every aspect of her life, and there is no hesitation to discuss her achievements as well as her failures. She beautifully weaves together every thread of her life, and in the end, gives the reader a captivating look into her personal life as well as her political life. Tough Love is definitely an autobiography worth reading!
I would like to thank Susan Rice, Simon & Schuster, and NetGalley for allowing me the opportunity to read and review Tough Love: My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For. My views are my own, and are in no way influenced by anyone else.
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Mr. William Funderburk
5.0 out of 5 starsHighly relevant today--foreign policy with emotional and critical intelligenceOctober 10, 2019
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Ambassador Rice provides the reader with assurance that despite the human frailties we all possess, most people who serve the nation's security do so with humility, grace, intellect and strategic wisdom.
Worldly enough not to be an "insider" but immersed enough to understand what it's like to grow up in the fishbowl inside the Washington, DC beltway, Ambassador Rice's reflections on the "tough love" she receive help to inform the collaborations and alliances she was able to skillfully balance. Her upbringing in a home of ultra high achievers surrounded by even more high achievers stands in stark contrast to her view of surviving as the child of a decade long divorce. Her world includes deeply personal and poignant stories and is one of someone self assured and self aware enough not to use her race as a crutch but wise enough to understand the importance of being color aware and not color blind.
Ambassador Rice's personal experiences serving President Obama with a team of truly stable, competent and dignified foreign policy experts is a reminder of a day that I yearn for. I look forward to finishing the book (and this review!) and seeing what she'll do next!
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Cristie
5.0 out of 5 starsPowerful ReadOctober 9, 2019
Format: Hardcover
I have read many biographies and memoirs about powerful women, but this one really grabbed my attention. Susan Rice is known for appearing on Sunday shows about Benghazi, but this book thoughtfully and powerfully allows the reader to go on the journey with her to that point in history. She is honest and straightforward when explaining why she made the choices she had to. I found this to be a brilliant read and am hoping we hear more from Susan Rice in the future.
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5.0 out of 5 starsPowerful, Educating, Transparent, Insightful & TimelyOctober 9, 2019
Format: Audible Audiobook
The Audible sample forced me to purchase this format in the interim of purchasing a hard copy…the prologue speaks penetratingly for itself.
The Tough Love: My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For by Susan Rice is one of the few autobiographies I have fully engaged which kept my attention from the first page to the last over a one day reading span.
Her honoring and reverencing of her family lineage were with humility and proudness. Rice’s specific reflection on the discord between her parents and the effect it took on her and her brother will slightly tug on one’s heart strings. Yet, on those unbreakable parental shoulders the siblings stood on, came from the historical sacrifices and presence of her father, Mr. Emmett, a Cornel professor and governor of the Federal Reserve, and her mother, Mrs. Lois, the Godmother of the Pell Grants (I'm a proud recipient which afforded me great relief in attending school while raising children) and later becoming the Vice President in navigating to the now known College Board. Rice's safeguarding in her generational lessons and notes comes from the backdrop of one parent's descendants of slaves, and one parent's descendants of immigrants, such a unity.
I wrote down dozens of words, passages and quotes throughout my listening, where her direct and no holds bar narration made the experience more personal and intriguing. The 5 Points and In the Time of Crisis…you’ll need to read the book to fully comprehend.
Aside from her groundbreaking presence in the white house, Rice has her B.A, from Stanford University, a former Rhodes Scholar earning both a master's and doctorate degree from Oxford University. Her educational and professional success comes from her parent’s lessons that she termed as “plain yet powerful”: "Don’t take no for an answer when the question is: Can I? - Family comes first and must stand together - Don’t forget where you come from.” Great lessons everyone should apply to their life's trajectory.
Susan Rice shares a non-duplicated and evidential detail in who she is, and how she evolved to become the woman she is today by her important roles working with both the Clinton and Obama administrations, serving her country, and sometimes being the scapegoat for political situations. All proven to be worthy experiences to endure and evolve from with the love and support by her close knit of relatives, friends, colleagues and mentors such as Madeleine Albright and Sandy Berger. Ultimately, the profound and non-wavering support from the 'love of her life' - her husband, her two children, brother and an unbreakable family tree.
Rice made it crystal clear that the skin of her color would not hold her back on any accord while overcoming personal trials and tribulations while utilizing those tough love lessons to preserve, excel and succeed.
“The combination — being a confident black woman who is not seeking permission or affirmation from others — I now suspect accounts for why I inadvertently intimidate some people, especially certain men,” she writes, “and perhaps also why I have long inspired motivated detractors who simply can’t deal with me.” For me, one of the strongest passageways from her book.
Tough Love: My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For by Susan Rice provided me with comprehensive history and present lessons that will forever resonate…such a necessary read for today’s climate.
Rice has no cut cards and this book will be gifted to my children.
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5.0 out of 5 starsHow she was usedOctober 12, 2019
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Monday, October 14, 2019
Reflections from a Former World Vision Intern - Engage Korea
Reflections from a Former World Vision Intern - Engage Korea
REFLECTIONS FROM A FORMER WORLD VISION INTERN
By yjnkng88 September 6, 2019 0 Comments
My first year in college I had the opportunity to be a culture buddy to international students. As a culture buddy, I spent time with the individuals I was paired with and helped them adjust to life in the United States. Yuna was the very first culture buddy I was paired with. I happened to learn her birthday would be taking place a couple of days after her arrival to the states. Since it fell on a weekend I reached out and took her on a birthday adventure which ended with birthday cake pops (which she had never tried). You could say spending her birthday with her allowed us to become friends much quicker than expected. There were several countries represented by the international students, so it was common to have buddies from various countries. However, in my case, the entire year I was only paired with individuals from the ROK. While we did a great job of staying in touch as culture buddies, when they returned to the ROK, we did not stay in touch.
At the end of my undergraduate studies one of my friends decided she wanted to venture out of what she was used to eating and try something new. I recommended a Korean restaurant owned and run by a Korean ajumma. We became regulars and knew all the waiters’ names (and vice versa). In fact, we preferred going to the restaurant to study for exams because our restaurant friends would seat us in the back at one of the largest tables. We ate amazing food during our study breaks. Eventually, one of the employees told us he was moving back to the ROK. He said that if we ever wanted to visited Korea we make sure to look for him so he could show us around. At that point, I figured it was time to truly learn more about the country, not just on a surface level.
I requested as many non-fiction books on Korea as I could find at my public library. I figured it would be what I would focus on for the summer. As a result, I read Korean cookbooks, language books, Korean history, fun facts about the ROK, fun facts about the DPRK, and tourist books on their experience visiting one or both Koreas. As I read each book and took notes on what caught my attention, I would have more books that were mentioned and would then request. By the end of the summer, I realized just how fascinating the history of the Korean Peninsula was. Despite people wanting to visit the ROK for its highly advanced technology lifestyle and the DPRK for its mystery, I was more interested in the DPRK because, as an advocate of public health (global health), I realized if I had to pick one place to work with public health (child and maternal health with a focus on nutrition), the DPRK was where I would want to focus my work. Part of the interest was birthed from the stories I read. Other aspects were from reading about how there were very few non-profit organizations in the country and wanting to get to work in a country with so much mystery surrounding it.
As I began working on my Master in Public Health (MPH), I quickly realized what made the DPRK different than other countries one decided to focus on in their studies. Little to no information existed when it came to public health in action in the country. A key element of public health being successful is the importance of being a part of the community you work with as knowing the community allows one to build trust and to bring about implementation that is specific to the needs of the people one is working with. Not being a part of the community limits the effectiveness of what one may hope to improve, especially when plans do not take into consideration what one has readily available in country. In the case of the DPRK, this includes what policies are in place that limit what one can and cannot provide the country.
During the second year of my MPH, one of the courses I was enrolled in required selecting a country from a list the professor had pre-approved and looking at the country’s health system and the influence the government had on the health system. Because the professor would only allow one student per country, I figured it was best to quickly scan the list. I was hoping that the DPRK would be on the list but wouldn’t be surprised if it had not made the list because as I scanned the first half, most of the countries were in Africa. To my surprise, the DPRK was on the list. I was thrilled and quickly requested the country for the assignment. Thankfully, it had not caught the attention of any other classmate, so my professor said, “The DPRK is yours, have fun!” I still remember I made a video for friends and family letting them know I was looking forward to a research project and to let me know if they wanted to read it when completed. I was so excited about getting to learn more about the DPRK’s health system and figured someone else might be as well. In this research project, I found out about various organizations that had been in the country and left for one reason or another. While not impossible to find, resources were limited.
Prior to the final semester of my MPH, I had the opportunity to travel to Republic of Korea. I was in the country for three months. During that time, I was glad to be on the Korean Peninsula, but frustrated over how close I was to the DPRK without being able to step foot into the country and see it for myself. Since I happened to be in Republic of Korea during the PyeongChang Winter Olympics 2018, there was more talk about the DPRK because of the unified Korean team. As much as I enjoyed my time in Republic of Korea, I was a little upset when I returned to the U.S. I had figured that, while in Republic of Korea, I might have been able to connect with individuals who were part of the public health work in the DPRK or network with individuals who knew how to become a part of the work taking place in the DPRK. That was not the case. I returned to the United States, finished my MPH and figured that getting to be a part of public health work for the DPRK would require learning the language and waiting for the day when I came across a humanitarian opportunity focused on the DPRK.
Enter World Vision (WV). When I joined the organization as an intern, I did not know they had projects in the DPRK. In fact, I only found out because I came across an internal resource at World Vision called The WV-US Atlas. The Atlas shows where WV is working. When I looked at the specific countries under East Asia, there was the DPRK. I noted who the individual who oversaw the work there was and figured I would have to conduct an informational interview to learn more about what World Vision was doing. Prior to scheduling an interview with Randall Spadoni, the Senior Regional Advisor for East Asia and the DPRK Program Director at World Vision, he spoke at an intern lunch and learn. Mr. Spadoni shared with us some data and then mentioned he would be heading to the DPRK in just a couple of days, so if anyone was interested in learning more, they should reach out before he left. I stuck around after and shared I was interested in the DPRK and that if he ever needed any help with a project I would be more than willing to help as best as I could. We scheduled an informational interview during which I shared more about my health background and Mr. Spadoni shared more about how he ended up working with the DPRK. By the end of the interview, I had an opportunity to assist with a project. While Mr. Spadoni was in the DPRK, I was in the U.S. reviewing and editing a two-page brief on past successful global multi-stakeholder collaborations and humanitarian support in the DPRK. I also created several options for presenting data using visuals (i.e. graphs, charts, tables). Upon Mr. Spadoni’s return from the DPRK, I was tasked with compiling information on nutrition and WASH for the DPRK. By the time I had finished my projects, I had read through numerous documents, including the following:
2017 Democratic People’s Republic of Korea Multiple Indicator Cluster Survey
2014 Democratic People’s Republic of Korea Socio-Economic, Demographic and Health Survey
2009 Democratic People’s Republic of Korea Multiple Indicator Cluster Survey
National Nutrition Strategy for Women and Children (2018-2021), published by the Ministry of Public Health, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
As a result of assisting Mr. Spadoni, I was able to connect with Engage Korea and have the opportunity to write this forum post. It has allowed me to reflect on how public health in the DPRK is not the same as working in other areas. It requires a lot more thinking outside the box and seeing that progress is made, even if it takes a bit longer than expected For instance, Mr. Spadoni shared how drilling a well in the DPRK required relying on machinery that could be fixed domestically without needing foreign replacement parts. I know that if one day I want to travel with an organization to the DPRK, I would like to speak Korean because I would want to communicate directly rather than have to rely on an interpreter. While public health focuses on working within the community, in the case of the DPRK, public health requires building trust quickly and being a part of the community every so often with a visit or two each year.
I joined World Vision as the international health groups health team intern knowing I would get to work with various countries and healthcare sectors. I managed to work alongside several health team program managers and technical advisors. By the time I had completed my internship, I had worked with projects focused on HIV, menstrual health, neglected tropical diseases (NTDs), water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH), adolescent health (marriage, food insecurity, education, HIV, policy), maternal and child health, and global health advocacy. The projects I would consider most unique to my internship experience at World Vision were linked to health, but not necessarily in the sector I was interning for. Take for instance the collaboration with Mr. Spadoni and his team. While I was not familiar with everything his department took part in, our common ground was health and our interest in the DPRK. As it turned out, WV’s work in the DPRK was focused on nutrition and child and maternal health, areas I had experience working with.
With the WASH sector, I took part in learning what exactly the various national offices were doing when it came to utilizing market-based approaches to WASH in their country. I was provided with several WASH documents to read through to familiarize myself with market-based sanitation. Once I completed that task, I went through the process of creating probing questions. Interviews were scheduled with program managers and national directors after I got the green light from my supervisors for the WASH project. I used the data provided in interviews to create one-page summaries for each country’s market-based WASH work. Working with the WASH project, one of the supervisors presented me with another project I couldn’t refuse: taking part in the round-table discussions for Women in WASH at World Vision as the organization sought to address gender inequality in staffing. My role in this project included assisting with interpreting for the Spanish speaking women who shared what they saw as barriers for women to be a part of WASH work and reviewing some of the transcriptions that would be used to present solutions to leadership within the organization.
An individual in the Emergency Response sector reached out and asked if I would be willing to conduct Spanish interviews for a case study. Having developed my interviewer skills through the various interviews I conducted for the WASH project, I accepted the project. As it turned out, the opportunity truly was one that is rare to come by. After all, it was the opportunity to help in the work taking place in Colombia to respond to the Venezuelan crisis. The organization has a context analysis tool, Good Enough Context Analysis for Rapid Response (GECARR), which generates actionable and practical recommendations for all involved in the country to respond to the current situation drawn by the views of internal and external stakeholders, including local community members. Several GECARR’s were conducted in Colombia as a result of the organization’s response to the Venezuelan crisis. The task at hand was to interview individuals who were given the results of the GECARR in order to determine the GECARR’s true impact and benefit in how World Vision-Colombia goes about their humanitarian response now. Upon the completion of each interview, I translated it to English for the individuals conducting the case study.
I am thankful for the time I was a part of the organization that allowed me to be a part of projects that positively impact the lives of thousands of individuals around the world. The internship allowed me to see that I truly enjoy being a part of the public health/global health community. Each project I was a part of, I wanted to pack my bags and fly to the country and be a part of the work on the field. In the case of the DPRK, even before I joined World Vision, the nation had a special place in my heart. I was able to further develop my interest while helping to gather research articles on the DPRK’s nutrition and on WASH pertaining to maternal and child health for potential future program designs. Last but not least, I now know like-minded people who are also dedicated and passionate about the DPRK.Photo Credit :CCIHPhoto Credit: World Vision
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Tuesday, October 8, 2019
한신대 윤소영 교수 “위안부 문제 잘못 제기됐다는 게 평소 생각” : 사회 : 종교신문 1위 크리스천투데이
한신대 윤소영 교수 “위안부 문제 잘못 제기됐다는 게 평소 생각” : 사회 : 종교신문 1위 크리스천투데이
한신대 윤소영 교수 “위안부 문제 잘못 제기됐다는 게 평소 생각”
김진영 기자 jykim@chtoday.co.kr | 입력 : 2018.03.29 09:43
총학생회 “사실 관계 확인 못했다… 윤 교수에 사과”
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최근 소위 '위안부 비하' 발언을 했다고 알려지며 논란이 된 한신대학교 윤소영 교수(국제경제학)가 이에 대한 입장을 28일 밝혔다.
윤 교수는 "학생들 사이에서 제가 '3월 9일 경제학개론 수업 때 위안부 문제는 우리나라에서 날조한 것이기 때문에 국내에서만 수용되고 외국에서는 무시된다고 말했다'는 취지의 소문이 떠돈다는 사실을 어제(3월 15일) 조교를 통해 알게 됐다"며 "경제학개론 수업에서 이런 취지의 말을 하게 된 맥락은 사실 나도 잘 기억나지 않고, 게다가 '날조'라는 말을 했을리도 없다"고 했다.
윤 교수는 "그러나 위안부 문제가 잘못 제기되었다는 것이 평소 저의 생각이고 몇몇 전공강의에서는 이에 대해 자세하게 설명하고 있다"면서 "내 강의를 듣지 않은 학생들은 크게 오해할 수도 있는 대목이라 간단히 설명해 보겠다"고 했다.
그는 "먼저 1995년에 한일국교정상화가 이루어진 역사적 맥락을 알아야 한다. 당시 국교정상화의 조건으로 우리나라는 식민지배에 대한 배상을 요구한 반면, 일본은 미군이 우리에게 양도한 '적산'(미군의 적국의 재산, 즉 우리나라에 있던 일본인 정부와 기업, 나아가 일반 시민의 재산)의 반환을 요구했다. 이 두 요구가 평행선을 달리면서 협상의 타결이 불투명해지자 미국이 중재해 일본이 우리나라에게 '독립축하금'이자 '경제협력자금'으로 5억 달러를 제공하는 것으로 합의하게 됐다. 그리고 이것이 1960~70년대 박정희 정부로 하여금 경제기적을 실현할 수 있게 했던 종자돈이 되었다"고 했다.
윤 교수는 "박정희 정부는 군사독재였으므로 위안부를 비롯해서 징용자, 징병자 등 민간인의 피해 문제를 무시했다고 판단할지도 모르겠다"며 "그러나 북한도 남한과 동일한 입장인 것을 보면 너무 성급한 판단이다. 2000년대 초에 김정일 위원장과 고이즈미 총리 사이에 북일국교정상화협상이 타결 직전까지 진행된 적이 있는데, 당시 김 위원장은 고이즈미 총리가 제시한 조건인 100억 달러(1965년의 5억 달러를 환산한 가치)를 이의 없이 수락했다. 또 현재 김정은 위원장도 거의 동일한 조건이면 만족한다는 입장이라고 한다. 달리 말해서 북한도 민간인 피해 문제를 별도로 제기하는 것은 아니라는 것"이라고 했다.
이어 "그렇다고 해서 제가 민간인 피해 문제를 무시하자는 입장은 아니다. 그런 것이 아니라, 5억 달러로 그 동안 이만큼 경제성장을 이룩했으니 정부, 나아가 가장 큰 혜택을 입은 기업이 그 문제를 주동적으로 해결해야 한다는 것"이라며 "한일국교정상화를 가능케 한 양국간 조약을 훼손해서는 안 되기 때문"이라고 했다.
그는 "외교란 상대방이 있는 것이고, 특히 이해관계가 충돌할 수 있는 국가간 관계를 규제하는 조약이 바로 국제법이라는 것"이라며 "우리가 일방적으로 국제법을 위반한다면, 최악의 경우에는 국교가 단절될 수도 있다. 그러나 민간인 피해 문제 때문에 그런 극단적 결과가 초래되기를 바라는 사람은 없을 것"이라고 했다.
윤 교수는 또 "우리 한신은 박정희-전두환 군사독재 아래에서 사회문주화운동의 선봉에 섰다"며 "그리고 그렇게 할 수 있었던 것은 '학문의 자유'에 대한 옹호가 우리 한신의 전통이었기 때문이다. 학문의 자유란 교수가 자신의 생각을 책이나 논문으로 자유롭게 발표할 수 있는 '연구의 자유', 또 자신이 연구한 내용을 자유롭게 강의할 수 있는 '교육의 자유'로 구성되는 것"이라고 했다.
한편, 윤소영 교수의 경제학개론 수업을 수강한 또 다른 학생에 따르면 윤소영 교수의 강의 중 일부 내용이 오해의 여지를 줄 수는 있었지만 일부 언론에서 자극적으로 기사화 된 내용은 사실이 아니라고 증언했다고 한신대 측은 밝혔다.
또 한신대 총학생회는 사실 관계를 확인하지 않은 채 문제제기를 받아들인 실수를 인정하고, 혼란을 느꼈을 모든 사람들과 윤소영 교수에게 사과한다고 밝혔다.
이에 윤소영 교수는 "학자이자 교수로서 강의 중 내용에 대해서는 학생들에게 사과할 문제는 아니라고 생각한다"며 "그러나 말의 진위 여부를 떠나 학생들이 오해하고 혼란받은 부분에 대해서는 미안하고 유감스럽다. 또한 위안부 할머니 및 이를 바로잡기 위해 애쓰는 많은 사람들에게 사회적으로 물의를 일으킨 부분에 대해 사과한다"고 말했다.
한신대에 따르면 윤소영 교수의 소위 '위안부 비하' 발언은 '한신대학교 대신 전해드립니다' 페이스북 페이지를 통해 제보된 것으로, 명확한 사실 관계가 파악되지 않은 채 아시아경제가 처음으로 보도했다.
현재 한신대 총학생회는 아시아경제에 기사 정정을 요청한 상태다.
JOY ELLEN YOON — Overcoming Obstacles to Provide Humanitarian Aid to the DPRK
JOY ELLEN YOON — Overcoming Obstacles to Provide Humanitarian Aid to the DPRK
Overcoming Obstacles to Provide Humanitarian Aid to the DPRK
The United Nations and United States’ government both state that they have no intention of hurting the common people of the DPRK. Both entities in theory state that they do not wish to hinder humanitarian assistance to the elderly, pregnant women, children, and the most needy in North Korea. However, the reality of providing humanitarian aid to North Korea is quite the opposite. The current climate challenges even large NGOs to reconsider their involvement in the DPRK. Many years of overcoming governmental permits and licenses is required to continue providing life-saving humanitarian assistance to the most needy in North Korea.
This week our non-profit organization, Ignis Community, received a long awaited final permit to ship necessary medical and rehabilitation equipment to North Korea. It was a long journey of submitting various applications to multiple entities, but in the end, all licenses came through for us to continue our humanitarian assistance to the DPRK. Here is the gist of our story.
Ignis Community has been working in North Korea since 2008. Although my husband and I began traveling and working inside the country in 2007, it wasn’t until the following year that we officially registered our charitable organization in the DPRK. Since then, we have registered Ignis Community, also known as Sunyang Hana in Korean, as 501(c)3 organizations in the U.S., South Korea, and Hong Kong.
Ignis Community aims to ignite positive and sustainable support in North Korea through developing the realms of health, medicine, and education for children throughout the nation. In addition to providing food and medical assistance to remote rural areas, one of Ignis’ main projects is developing a Spine Rehabilitation Center (PYSRC) in the capital city of Pyongyang that provides medical and therapeutic services for children with cerebral palsy and other developmental disabilities. Prior to the PYSRC, no official treatment existed for children with cerebral palsy, autism, and other developmental disabilities in North Korea. These conditions were either not treated and left alone or treated with a lack of expertise and knowledge. As a result, many children were left hidden behind doors and even more did not survive in such isolating situations.
Since this medical specialty was developing for the first time in the DPRK, Ignis Community began building a specialty ward for rehabilitation on the campus of the Pyongyang Medical School Hospital. This five-story medical facility will provide both out-patient and in-patient care and services for various muscular-skeletal conditions as well as treatment for children with developmental disabilities such as cerebral palsy. Including treating patients and training doctors in this cutting edge medical specialty, the construction and development of the PYSRC program costs over a $3 million dollars.
Unfortunately, life-saving facilities and treatment for children with developmental disabilities is not fully covered underneath the General License #5, which allows humanitarian aid to the DPRK. General License #5 is extremely narrow in its scope allowing strictly only medicine, food, shelter, and clothing donations to the people of North Korea. Any construction of facilities, shipping of medical supplies and equipment, and other humanitarian services require multiple layers of permits and licenses from both the U.N. and the United States.
In our case, Ignis Community began applying for appropriate licenses as soon as President Obama started issuing new executive orders in 2015. The first of these hurdles was the most difficult. Ignis Community was required to obtain an OFAC license from the U.S. Treasury Department in order to channel funds and supplies to complete the development and construction of the PYSRC. We applied for the license in November 2015, but it wasn’t until October 2016 that we received our official OFAC license. Eleven months of back and forth communication with the Treasury Department was necessary before the license was finally issued.
Although this was the most difficult step, it was only the first of other requirements necessary to continue our humanitarian assistance to children with developmental disabilities in the DPRK. Next was the need to obtain a Commerce BIS license. The BIS license allows medical and rehabilitation equipment to be shipped to Pyongyang for the treatment of children with cerebral palsy and autism. Once this license was obtained, Ignis Community had to apply for an exemption from the UN Sanctions Committee. All metal, including metal found in gait trainers, walkers, needles, stethoscopes, and other medical supplies, is banned according to U.N. Resolution #2397. Without permission from the U.N. Sanctions Committee, any shipment containing metal sent to North Korea would be stopped and quarantined by China customs along the North Korea border. But despite all of these hurdles, Ignis Community was finally able to obtain all necessary licenses for the development of the PYSRC in September 2019.
However, monitoring of the project and uninterrupted treatment of pediatric patients remains an incredible challenge. Since Ignis Community was founded by and directed by U.S. citizens, we must first obtain Special Validation Passports before we can travel into the DPRK. Originally, our family was living in North Korea. We had residence in both Rason and Pyongyang with over ten years of experience working and living inside the country. But on September 1, 2017, the U.S. State Department issued a Geographic Travel Restriction to North Korea. All U.S. citizens from that point on were restricted from traveling into North Korea, and our family had to leave our home in Pyongyang for an indefinite period of time. Since then, we have had to rely upon non-U.S. team members and Special Validation Passports to continue our work inside North Korea.
The U.S. State Department allows extremely limited travel permits for U.S. citizens traveling for life-saving humanitarian purposes, media coverage, and diplomatic negotiations. Over a two-year span, Ignis Community has received four Special Validation Passports for four separate trips into Pyongyang. However, these trips have been limited in scope, and as a result, have dramatically reduced the amount of treatment and expertise Ignis can provide for children with developmental disabilities. Currently, we are awaiting an answer to our fifth application for Special Validation Passports.
The reality of humanitarian organizations on the ground in North Korea is bleak and discouraging. Humanitarian aid requires multiple layers of permits and licenses not only from the United States but from the U.N., itself. These licenses often take years to obtain. In the meantime, the common people of North Korea who are in need of humanitarian assistance are the ones who are suffering, not the government. The U.N. estimates that approximately 10 million people in North Korea are in need of humanitarian aid. International policies that have implemented U.N. sanctions to put pressure on the DPRK to denuclearize are also, in part, responsible for the humanitarian crisis in North Korea. As Chris Rice with Mennonite Central Committee states, “Humanitarian engagement should not be connected with politics. The vulnerable should not be hurt by these political shifts.”
Fortunately, Ignis Community has been able to overcome all of these obstacles to continue our humanitarian assistance to the children and citizens of North Korea. Three years of hard work has finally allowed us to receive all the permits and licenses required for us to sustain the PYSRC’s treatment and medical training program for children with developmental disabilities in the DPRK.
Sunday, October 6, 2019
David Swain. What we learnt about North Korea | The Australian Friend
What we learnt about North Korea | The Australian Friend
What we learnt about North Korea December 2, 2018/0 Comments/in 1812 December 2018 /by David Swain
David Swain, New South Wales Regional Meeting
We went to North Korea, or the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK), not knowing what to expect. We knew from history that the Korean Peninsula had been controlled by Japan from 1910 until the end of World War II in 1945. After that North Korea was controlled by the USSR and South Korea by USA. Kim Il Sung was installed as leader in the north, and Syngman Rhee in the south.
Both wanted to unite the Korean peninsula; eventually the North invaded the South (but the North Koreans don’t tell it like that). In response, a United Nations force, mainly American and led by General Douglas Macarthur, attacked the invading force to drive it back. But instead of stopping at the agreed border at the 38th parallel, Macarthur pushed onward through North Korea, almost to the Chinese border. This brought the Chinese into the war on the North Korean side, forcing the UN forces to retreat. There followed a bloody war until 1953, when an armistice was signed, defining a Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) between North and South Korea. No peace agreement has ever been signed, so theoretically North Korea is still at war with South Korea and the United Nations.
During the war, virtually every building in North Korea, and a large proportion of the population, were destroyed by bombing. Since the war, North Korea has been under some form of international sanctions, limiting the ability to trade.
So what did we learn?
“You can’t get into North Korea!” they said
Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il are hard to avoid
North Korea has many tourists, mainly Chinese, but some European. The lack of American tourists is principally due to bans by the US government, not the North Koreans. There are several North Korean tourist companies delighted to welcome you.
But you must obey the rules. We had four minders, including the bus driver, looking after 12 of us and making sure we stayed in the approved areas. Yes, we know we only saw the things we were supposed to see, but the alternative was staying at home and seeing nothing.
Pyongyang
Arch of Triumph
We approached Pyongyang from the airport in expectation. The older buildings were unexceptional: basically Soviet Revival in concrete. The difference was that they were all brightly painted in pastel greens, blues and oranges. Further into the city, however, all changed. There were some buildings in traditional style, but many were modernist, indeed futurist. It was as though a group of architects had been gathered together and asked to have fun. Tall buildings (our hotel was 40 floors) are of many styles. And because the city was centrally planned, there was space around each building so it could be appreciated. Roads were wide, despite the lack of heavy traffic, and bordered by generous footpaths and bike lanes.
And throughout the central city were the ceremonial buildings: the 170-metre Juche tower, the Arch of Triumph, modelled on the Paris arch, but intentionally 10 metres taller, and many mosaic pictures and statues of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il, at least three or four times life size.
Juche tower
There were relatively few cars, and heavy trucks were rare. There were, however, substantial systems of buses, trolley buses and trams, as well as an impressive, if limited, underground railway system.
We noticed that many apartment dwellers had photovoltaic panels on their balconies or hung out of their windows. We didn’t see any large rooftop arrays of panels.
The countryside
Outside Pyongyang life is tougher. The lack of fuel and machinery means most tasks are done manually. Rice, the main crop, is cut by hand, then transported by small tractors with trailers, or in some cases by bullock carts, to a central thresher. The farms we visited had substantial greenhouses to extend the growing season. These have been designed to maximise solar gain, with the plastic covers facing south and a wall to absorb heat and give warmth back again at night, but heating is still necessary and expensive, and based on local coal. We were told that heavy oil was previously used for this, but this is no longer available because of sanctions..
North Korea has a population of about 25.6 million, and a land area of 120,505 square kilometres – roughly equivalent to the population of Australia living on twice the area of Tasmania. Only about 20 percent of North Korea can be used for food production, the rest of the country being mountainous. An official of the Ministry of Agriculture who met with us said that North Korea needs 8 million tonnes of grain per year to feed its population, but current production is only 6 million tonnes. The country would need to import 2 million tonnes to feed its people, but it does not have the finance to do this. Consequently the population is under-fed. This is supported by reports from FAO, which add that the North Korean population is particularly short of protein. However, as one of our group remarked, their food self-sufficiency is far greater than many of the world’s developed countries, such as the UK.
Buildings in Pyongyang
The situation is, however, better than in the 1990s when, largely because of climatic disasters, production fell to 3 million tonnes, and many people (hundreds of thousands, or millions, depending on who you talk to) starved.
How much does the average North Korean earn?
This is a difficult question. Initially, North Koreans obtained their food through the government Public Distribution System. During the 1990s famine, however, an unofficial market system grew up, with people growing food around their houses and selling it to their neighbours. The government initially tried to suppress this market system, but more recently have been more lenient towards it. This system has grown, and is now important in providing food to the average North Korean.
On a cooperative farm we visited, farm workers were provided with houses, with education for their children, with medical attention, and with community services such as a swimming pool. I understand that they received a cash bonus, perhaps once a year, and as a reward were taken to entertainments in the city. A silk mill we visited in the city seemed to run on similar lines, with some of the staff living on the premises, and education provided both for children and for workers. They also had a swimming pool and gymnasium.
With so much of their requirements provided by the state, it is difficult to compare the income of North Koreans with that of workers in a capitalist system.
The performing arts
North Koreans are proud of their ability to perform at all levels – in fact they consider their country the world champion in karaoke. Miss Kim, our leading tour guide, several times serenaded us on the bus – with Danny Boy.
The tour company obviously wanted to show us the best. Our first concert was at a kindergarten with children between 3 and 6 years old (North Korean children start formal education at 7 years old.) This included a remarkable percussion band, a group of violins, and one of harmonicas. One girl played the Janggu, a double-ended traditional drum, and younger children presented highly dramatic plays.
The Glorious Country Games. Note captions are in English and Chinese.
The next step was the Children’s Palace. This, we understood, is a large establishment where older children are given extra training after school. We saw lessons in painting and drawing, in computer skills, in dancing and in playing violins and the gayageum (a traditional stringed instrument). We were given a wonderful concert by these talented children.
The ultimate was the Glorious Country Games. These games, billed as “the Grand Mass Gymnastics and Artistic Performance”, are held in a stadium holding 100,000 people. Along one side of the arena was an ever-changing backdrop made up of placards held by at least 10,000 people (although I’ve seen some estimates of up to 30,000). The performances were outstanding, combining gymnastic and artistic ability with the coordinated movement of up to 1000 participants at a time in an area equivalent to an AFL field.
Many of the performances had a political note, emphasising the wish for the unification of the Korean peninsula, and desire for peace between nations.
Is North Korea a threat to world peace?
North Korea has one of the largest armies in the world, but it did not appear particularly threatening to us. We saw soldiers working on city building sites, harvesting rice, or just walking around town. There were only two places where we saw soldiers armed. In the DMZ, the few soldiers we saw wore steel helmets and carried small side arms. In the mountains, at the Friendship House that displays gifts given to the leaders by foreign supporters, soldiers formed a ceremonial guard with shiny automatic rifles. In general, North Korean soldiers were less intimidating than New South Wales policemen.
Soldiers in the field
The army, we were assured, is made up entirely of volunteers. It seems to be one of the few avenues of social and vocational advancement. A man or woman who performs well in the army can expect to be sent to university and fitted for a higher status job.
And of course North Korea, we are told, has nuclear weapons. We obviously wished this wasn’t the case, but it seems improbable that these weapons would be used. The North Korean leaders must be aware that if they launched a nuclear attack on any other country, the beautiful city of Pyongyang would be destroyed overnight – a case of Unilateral Assured Destruction. Nuclear weapons seem to be diplomatic rather than military weapons. The “political commissar” of our team of guides explained: “Before we had nuclear weapons nobody took any notice of us; we were ignored. Since we’ve had nuclear weapons all kinds of people are coming to visit us.”
So what does North Korea want? As far as we could see, it wants to be accepted as a member of the international community; it wants some form of unification with South Korea; it wants sanctions lifted so it can feed its people and become a prosperous country.
And that’s really not too much to ask, is it?
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What we learnt about North Korea December 2, 2018/0 Comments/in 1812 December 2018 /by David Swain
David Swain, New South Wales Regional Meeting
We went to North Korea, or the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK), not knowing what to expect. We knew from history that the Korean Peninsula had been controlled by Japan from 1910 until the end of World War II in 1945. After that North Korea was controlled by the USSR and South Korea by USA. Kim Il Sung was installed as leader in the north, and Syngman Rhee in the south.
Both wanted to unite the Korean peninsula; eventually the North invaded the South (but the North Koreans don’t tell it like that). In response, a United Nations force, mainly American and led by General Douglas Macarthur, attacked the invading force to drive it back. But instead of stopping at the agreed border at the 38th parallel, Macarthur pushed onward through North Korea, almost to the Chinese border. This brought the Chinese into the war on the North Korean side, forcing the UN forces to retreat. There followed a bloody war until 1953, when an armistice was signed, defining a Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) between North and South Korea. No peace agreement has ever been signed, so theoretically North Korea is still at war with South Korea and the United Nations.
During the war, virtually every building in North Korea, and a large proportion of the population, were destroyed by bombing. Since the war, North Korea has been under some form of international sanctions, limiting the ability to trade.
So what did we learn?
“You can’t get into North Korea!” they said
Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il are hard to avoid
North Korea has many tourists, mainly Chinese, but some European. The lack of American tourists is principally due to bans by the US government, not the North Koreans. There are several North Korean tourist companies delighted to welcome you.
But you must obey the rules. We had four minders, including the bus driver, looking after 12 of us and making sure we stayed in the approved areas. Yes, we know we only saw the things we were supposed to see, but the alternative was staying at home and seeing nothing.
Pyongyang
Arch of Triumph
We approached Pyongyang from the airport in expectation. The older buildings were unexceptional: basically Soviet Revival in concrete. The difference was that they were all brightly painted in pastel greens, blues and oranges. Further into the city, however, all changed. There were some buildings in traditional style, but many were modernist, indeed futurist. It was as though a group of architects had been gathered together and asked to have fun. Tall buildings (our hotel was 40 floors) are of many styles. And because the city was centrally planned, there was space around each building so it could be appreciated. Roads were wide, despite the lack of heavy traffic, and bordered by generous footpaths and bike lanes.
And throughout the central city were the ceremonial buildings: the 170-metre Juche tower, the Arch of Triumph, modelled on the Paris arch, but intentionally 10 metres taller, and many mosaic pictures and statues of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il, at least three or four times life size.
Juche tower
There were relatively few cars, and heavy trucks were rare. There were, however, substantial systems of buses, trolley buses and trams, as well as an impressive, if limited, underground railway system.
We noticed that many apartment dwellers had photovoltaic panels on their balconies or hung out of their windows. We didn’t see any large rooftop arrays of panels.
The countryside
Outside Pyongyang life is tougher. The lack of fuel and machinery means most tasks are done manually. Rice, the main crop, is cut by hand, then transported by small tractors with trailers, or in some cases by bullock carts, to a central thresher. The farms we visited had substantial greenhouses to extend the growing season. These have been designed to maximise solar gain, with the plastic covers facing south and a wall to absorb heat and give warmth back again at night, but heating is still necessary and expensive, and based on local coal. We were told that heavy oil was previously used for this, but this is no longer available because of sanctions..
North Korea has a population of about 25.6 million, and a land area of 120,505 square kilometres – roughly equivalent to the population of Australia living on twice the area of Tasmania. Only about 20 percent of North Korea can be used for food production, the rest of the country being mountainous. An official of the Ministry of Agriculture who met with us said that North Korea needs 8 million tonnes of grain per year to feed its population, but current production is only 6 million tonnes. The country would need to import 2 million tonnes to feed its people, but it does not have the finance to do this. Consequently the population is under-fed. This is supported by reports from FAO, which add that the North Korean population is particularly short of protein. However, as one of our group remarked, their food self-sufficiency is far greater than many of the world’s developed countries, such as the UK.
Buildings in Pyongyang
The situation is, however, better than in the 1990s when, largely because of climatic disasters, production fell to 3 million tonnes, and many people (hundreds of thousands, or millions, depending on who you talk to) starved.
How much does the average North Korean earn?
This is a difficult question. Initially, North Koreans obtained their food through the government Public Distribution System. During the 1990s famine, however, an unofficial market system grew up, with people growing food around their houses and selling it to their neighbours. The government initially tried to suppress this market system, but more recently have been more lenient towards it. This system has grown, and is now important in providing food to the average North Korean.
On a cooperative farm we visited, farm workers were provided with houses, with education for their children, with medical attention, and with community services such as a swimming pool. I understand that they received a cash bonus, perhaps once a year, and as a reward were taken to entertainments in the city. A silk mill we visited in the city seemed to run on similar lines, with some of the staff living on the premises, and education provided both for children and for workers. They also had a swimming pool and gymnasium.
With so much of their requirements provided by the state, it is difficult to compare the income of North Koreans with that of workers in a capitalist system.
The performing arts
North Koreans are proud of their ability to perform at all levels – in fact they consider their country the world champion in karaoke. Miss Kim, our leading tour guide, several times serenaded us on the bus – with Danny Boy.
The tour company obviously wanted to show us the best. Our first concert was at a kindergarten with children between 3 and 6 years old (North Korean children start formal education at 7 years old.) This included a remarkable percussion band, a group of violins, and one of harmonicas. One girl played the Janggu, a double-ended traditional drum, and younger children presented highly dramatic plays.
The Glorious Country Games. Note captions are in English and Chinese.
The next step was the Children’s Palace. This, we understood, is a large establishment where older children are given extra training after school. We saw lessons in painting and drawing, in computer skills, in dancing and in playing violins and the gayageum (a traditional stringed instrument). We were given a wonderful concert by these talented children.
The ultimate was the Glorious Country Games. These games, billed as “the Grand Mass Gymnastics and Artistic Performance”, are held in a stadium holding 100,000 people. Along one side of the arena was an ever-changing backdrop made up of placards held by at least 10,000 people (although I’ve seen some estimates of up to 30,000). The performances were outstanding, combining gymnastic and artistic ability with the coordinated movement of up to 1000 participants at a time in an area equivalent to an AFL field.
Many of the performances had a political note, emphasising the wish for the unification of the Korean peninsula, and desire for peace between nations.
Is North Korea a threat to world peace?
North Korea has one of the largest armies in the world, but it did not appear particularly threatening to us. We saw soldiers working on city building sites, harvesting rice, or just walking around town. There were only two places where we saw soldiers armed. In the DMZ, the few soldiers we saw wore steel helmets and carried small side arms. In the mountains, at the Friendship House that displays gifts given to the leaders by foreign supporters, soldiers formed a ceremonial guard with shiny automatic rifles. In general, North Korean soldiers were less intimidating than New South Wales policemen.
Soldiers in the field
The army, we were assured, is made up entirely of volunteers. It seems to be one of the few avenues of social and vocational advancement. A man or woman who performs well in the army can expect to be sent to university and fitted for a higher status job.
And of course North Korea, we are told, has nuclear weapons. We obviously wished this wasn’t the case, but it seems improbable that these weapons would be used. The North Korean leaders must be aware that if they launched a nuclear attack on any other country, the beautiful city of Pyongyang would be destroyed overnight – a case of Unilateral Assured Destruction. Nuclear weapons seem to be diplomatic rather than military weapons. The “political commissar” of our team of guides explained: “Before we had nuclear weapons nobody took any notice of us; we were ignored. Since we’ve had nuclear weapons all kinds of people are coming to visit us.”
So what does North Korea want? As far as we could see, it wants to be accepted as a member of the international community; it wants some form of unification with South Korea; it wants sanctions lifted so it can feed its people and become a prosperous country.
And that’s really not too much to ask, is it?
2Tags: art, famine, greenhouses, gymnastics, music, North Korea, peace, Pyongyang, rice,sanctions, tourists, unification, war
Thursday, October 3, 2019
16 NK투데이 » 캐나다 UBC-북한, '지속가능한 발전' 논의 학술대회 개최
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캐나다 UBC-북한, '지속가능한 발전' 논의 학술대회 개최
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캐나다 브리티시컬럼비아대학(UBC)의 캐나다-북한지식교류협력프로그램(KPP)이 10월 5일부터 7일까지 평양에서 ‘북한에서의 지속가능한 발전’이라는 주제로 국제학술회의를 개최한다고 밝혔다.
KPP가 지난 28일 밝힌 바에 따르면 이 학술회의는 캐나다-북한지식교류협력프로그램이 조직하고 북한의 국토환경보호성이 함께 주최하는 회의로 유엔기구와 북미, 유럽, 아시아의 8개 나라에서 16명의 외국 전문가들이 참가하게 된다고 한다.
KPP는 학술회의에 12명의 외국학자와 12명의 북한학자 등 총 24명의 전문가들이 주제발표를 하게 되며 130여 명의 북한의 환경전문가, 학자, 관료뿐만 아니라 KPP 참가자로 UBC에 다녀간 북한 교수들, 평양주재 외교관들이 참가하게 될 것이라고 전했다.
회의에서 다루게 될 주제는 기후변화, 산림경영, 농업관리, 페기물 처리, 관광개발, 그리고 물자원 관리 분야 등이며 지속가능한 발전에 관한 폭넓은 지식과 경험, 의견들을 교환하게 될 것이라고 한다.
KPP 소장인 박경애 교수는 "'지속가능한 발전'에 관한 학문적 지식과 경험이 풍부한 국제적으로 권위있는 학자, 전문가들로 외국 참가자 일행을 조직했다"고 밝혔다.
박경애 교수 ⓒ캐나다브리티시컬럼비아대학홈페이지
그리고 KPP 측은 "환경보호가 안정적이면서도 지속적인 발전을 보장하는 유일한 방안이라는 인식하에 이번 학술회의가 어떻게 환경과 사회경제의 발전 균형을 유지하며 보다 탄력적인 지속적 발전전략을 작성할 수 있는가에 대한 유익한 방안들을 토의할 수 있는 좋은 기회가 될 것"이라고 밝혔다.
이번 학술회의는 캐나다-북한지식교류협력프로그램이 지난 몇 년 간에 걸쳐 진행해 오고 있는 북한과의 지식교류 활동의 일환으로 진행하게 되었다.
이 프로그램은 올해로 6년째 진행되고 있는데, 매해 북한 교수 6명을 UBC에 초청하여 6개월동안 공부할 수 있는 기회를 제공하고 있는, 북미 최초이자 유일한 장기학술교류 프로그램이다.
KPP는 2013년과 2014년에 경제특구에 대한 두 차례의 국제회의를 평양에서 개최했는데, 박경애 KPP 소장은 이 때 경제특구를 직접 둘러보며 "북한이 국제적인 수준에 부합하는 경제개발구를 만들고자 진지한 노력을 기울이고 있다"는 소감을 밝히기도 했다.
KPP는 지난해에도 이 프로그램을 통해 북한의 경제학습 시찰단이 6월 13일부터 20일까지 일주일 동안 인도네시아를 방문해 강습과 현장학습을 할 수 있도록 조직했고, 11월에는 유엔기구인 UNITAR와 공동으로 스위스 제네바와 베른에서 농업 및 축산업에 관한 일주일 간의 강습과정을 진행하기도 했다.
KPP 측은 이번 학술회의가 지금까지 진행해 온 지식교류사업의 새로운 단계라며 북한과 세계 여러 나라의 학자들이 서로 만나 지속가능한 발전에 관한 의미있고 생산적인 의견을 교환함으로써 북한과 국제사회와의 지식공유를 더욱 활성화시킬 것으로 기대한다고 밝혔다.
지속 가능한 발전이란 사용하는 사람마다 용어의 의미를 조금씩 다르게 사용하지만 '자연이 허용하는 범위 내에서 경제, 사회, 환경 부문의 균형되고 조화로운 발전'을 의미한다고 한다.
1972년 스톡홀름회의에서 처음으로 환경문제가 논의되면서 지속 가능한 발전에 대한 고민이 시작되었고, 1992년 리우회의에서 지구환경질서의 기본원칙을 규정한 리우선언과 환경실천계획인 의제21(Agenda 21)이 채택되면서 지속 가능한 발전이라는 용어가 전세계적으로 확산되어 지금은 세계적으로도 많은 논의가 이루어지고 있다.
북한 역시 7차 당대회 사업총화보고 등 여러 차례에 걸쳐 땅, 대기, 바다 오염과 관련한 환경보호사업을 개선할 것을 강조하고, 최근 짓는 건물에 제로에너지, 탄소제로 건축기술을 도입하거나 에너지 절약을 강조하며 자연에너지 사용을 독려하는 등 환경을 고려하는 정책을 펼쳐나가고 있다.
한편 박경애 교수는 북한 방문을 마친 후 10월 12일부터 17일까지 서울에 머물 예정이라고 한다.
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Tuesday, October 1, 2019
한완상 "조국에게 부끄럼없이 돌 던질자 누구…정치적 책임은 역사적 판단" : 네이버 뉴스
한완상 "조국에게 부끄럼없이 돌 던질자 누구…정치적 책임은 역사적 판단" : 네이버 뉴스
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한완상 전 부총리는 정국을 뒤 흔들고 있는 조국 법무부장관 논란과 관련해 "조국 가족에게 좀 문제가 있다고 보지만 과연 부끄러움 없이 그들에게 돌을 던질 사람이 있는지"라고 반문했다. 또 만약 조국 장관 부인이 구속된다 해도 "조 장관에게 도의적 책임을 물을 순 있지만 법적 정치적 책임 여부는 좀 더 고민해야 한다"며 검찰개혁을 위해 자리를 유지해야 한다는 쪽에 힘을 보탰다.
◆ 가정하기 싫지만 도의적 책임은 져야지만 정치적 책임은 큰틀에서 고민해야
김영삼 정부시절 부총리겸 통일부 장관, 김대중 정부시절 부총리겸 교육부 장관을 지냈던 한 전 부총리는 지난 1일 CBS라디오 '시사자키 정관용입니다'와 인터뷰에서 진행자가 "만약 현직 법무장관의 부인에 구속영장이 청구되고 구속이 집행되면 어떻게 해야 하는가"라고 묻자 "그런 가정은 하고 싶지 않지만"이라며 단서를 단 뒤 "도의적인 책임은 져야한다. 그런데 법적 정치적인 책임을 져야 하느냐 하는 것은 또 다른 문제다"고 지적했다.
그는 "도의적인 책임 같으면 힘들겠지만 정치적 책임을 지는 것은, 프레임에 따라서 그렇게 가기 원했던 사람들의 소망대로 하는 것이 옳은 것이냐는 건 역사적인 판단이다"며 "정치보다 더 큰, 그런 점에 대해 고민을 해봐야한다"고 강조했다.
◆ 경찰, 군, 정보부 힘 빠지자 검찰이…
한 전 부총리는 "분단 이후 70년, 한국 정치를 생각하면 독재적이고 권위주의적인 권력의 주체가 많이 달라졌다. 처음에는 이승만 때는 경찰이 셌다. 그다음에 군, 그다음에 정보부 그랬는데 이 세 주체는 한번 권력을 쓰다가 지금 주체에서 벗어났다"고 설명했다.
이어 "세 주체가 권력을 쥘 때 검찰은 항상 이 세 주체에 봉사하고 공조를 했다. 그러다가 이번에 본격적으로 자기들이 주체로 들어서겠다고 하는 그런 움직임으로 보였다"며 "이제 우리 판이다, 우리가 해야겠다 이런 생각을 갖고 있었지 않았나 하는 것이 제 판단이다"고 말했다.
특히 "놀란 것은 대통령이 국제 평화 외교를 위해서 워싱턴에, UN 총회도 가고 이제 트럼프도 만나고 하는 그 사이에 검찰의 움직임이 전광석화처럼 압수수색하고~"라며 이는 전형적인 권력기관의 형태라고 비판했다.
한 전 부총리는 조국 장관을 "브루조아 혜택을 받은 사람이지만 지식인으로서 바람직한 지식인으로서는 자기 계급 이익을 초월하려고 지식인의 참된 모습을 찾으려고 했던 사람"이라고 호평했다.
그러면서 "이런 사람에게 (검찰이) 권력 비리의 프레임을 씌우면서도 본인에 대해서 뭔가가 나오지 않으니까 가족의 신상털기하는 걸 보고 이거는 아니다라고 생각했다"며 "검찰이 자기들이 권력 주체가 되려고 하는 그 순간 (28일 촛불 집회로) 그 꿈을 깨는 일이 이번에 일어나지 않았나"라고 촛불집회가 검찰의 꿈을 흔들어 놓았다고 주장했다.
◆ 조국 장관 가족 좀 문제있지만 부끄러움 없이 돌 던질 사람 있는지…
한 전 부총리는 "예수가 현장에서 간음하다 잡힌 여자를 보고 바르새인 사람들이 돌로 쳐 죽여야 되느냐 아니냐 물었을 때 예수께서 '너희들 가운데 죄 없는 사람부터 돌로 쳐라' 그러니까 돌 주운 사람이 다 돌을 놓고 달아났다"는 성격 구절을 소개했다.
그는 "조국 장관의 가족들, 딸과 부인에 대해서 잘했다고 생각하지 않는다, 좀 문제가 있다고 생각하지만 그들이 돌로 쳐 죽여야 할 만큼 그렇게 심각한 죄를 범했는지에 스스로 물어보고 과연 부끄러움 없이 힘차게 돌을 던질 수 있겠는가 그런 생각을 해 본다"고 밝혔다.
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앵커: 언론인이자 학자로서 북한 문제, 특히 경제분야를 중점적으로 다뤄온 문성희 박사와 함께 짚어보는 ‘북한 경제, 어제와 오늘’ 시간입니다. 문성희 박사는 현재 일본 도쿄에서 시사 주간지, 슈칸 킨요비(주간 금요일) 기자로 한반도 문제를 주로 다루고 있고 2017년 도쿄대에서 북한 경제분야 연구로 박사학위를 취득했습니다.
이 시간에는 북한에 나타나고 있는 시장경제체제의 현황과 그 가능성을 짚어보고 개선돼야 할 점까지 중점적으로 살펴봅니다.
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문성희 박사 (사진 제공:문성희)
<질문> 북한의 식량난은 어제오늘의 일이 아닙니다. 북한이 만성적인 식량부족에 시달리고 있다는 건 별로 새삼스럽다는 생각이 들지 않을 정도입니다. 문성희 박사님, 최근에 러시아 연해주의 우수리스크에서 열린 북한의 농업개혁을 주제로한 국제 학술회의에 참석하셨죠?
문성희: 네, 한국 경기도와 러시아의 연해주농업연구소가 공동 주최한 동북아 농업협력에 관한 국제 학술회의가 8월 초에 러시아에서 열렸습니다. 저도 참석해서 북한의 농업개혁정책 등에 관해서 발표하고 참석자들과 의견도 교환했습니다. 주로 한국 분들이 많이 참석하셨는데 경기도 관계자, 연구자, 학자, 실무자들이 중심이었습니다. 그리고 러시아의 연해주농업연구소와 러시아 과학아카데미 극동연구소 한국학센터 연구원, 극동연방대학 교수 등 러시아 측에서도 여러 분이 참석하셨습니다. 중국 옌벤대학교의 조선족 교수들도 몇 분 오셨어요. 물론 일본에서는 제가 참석했지만 저는 한국인이니까 순수 일본인 참가자라고는 말할 수 없지요.
<질문> 그러니까 한국, 러시아, 중국의 북한 농업 전문가들이 주로 참가했다는 말씀이시죠?
문성희: 네, 인상적이었던 건 회의장에 참가국들의 깃발이 걸려 있었는데 한국과 중국, 그리고 러시아의 깃발이 있었어요. 그래서 제가 발언할 때 이렇게 말했죠. “여기에 모자란 깃발이 3개 있습니다. 미국, 일본, 그리고 조선민주주의인민공화국”이라고. 회장에서는 웃음도 나왔지만 진지하게 생각할 문제라고 봅니다. 저는 과거에 북한 핵문제를 논의한 6개 나라인 남북한과 미국, 중국, 러시아, 일본이 한데 모여야 북한과 관련해 더 좋은 의견이 나온다고 생각해요. 물론 정부 관계자들이 한 곳에 모인다는 것은 현 상황에서 쉽지 않지만, 학자나 연구자, 나아가서 실무자들이 모이는 기회는 앞으로 가까운 시일에 실현됐으면 좋다고 생각합니다.
<질문> 주로 어떤 문제들이 논의됐나요?
문성희: 학술회의의 정식 명칭은 ‘2019 동북아 농업협력 활성화와 지속가능한 북한농촌개발 국제 컨퍼런스’ 입니다.
분과는 모두 4개.
- 북한 농업 현황과 과제,
- 지자체(경기도)의 동북아 및 북한농업 협력 방안,
- 북한의 개혁개방과 농업,
- 연해주에서의 남북러 농업협력의 현황과 발전방향
으로 나눠서 각각 1시간-1시간 반 정도씩 보고와 토론이 있었어요.
각 분과별 제목을 보시면 아시겠지만 기본은 동북아 각 나라들이 어떻게 북한 농업을 지원할 것인가 하는 문제를 주로 토의했습니다. 워낙 짧은 시간이라 깊은 토의는 못했지만, 각 보고를 들으면서 시사점은 많았다고 생각합니다.
<질문> 구체적으로 좀 설명해 주시요. 어떤 측면이 시사적이었다는 말씀이신가요?
문성희: 경기도가 어떻게 하면 북한의 농업 발전을 돕거나 북한과 경제협력을 해 나갈 수 있을까 하는 측면에서 제시한 보고나 발언들을 들을 수 있었어요.
경기도의 축산 정책의 방향에 대해서 설명하고 그것을 어떻게 남북 축산교류와 연결시키겠는가 하는 발표도 흥미로웠습니다. 그 발표에 따르면 축산분야 남북 협력사업으로는 양돈축사 설치 지원이 우선 추진할 수 있을 것 같다고 하면서도 대북제재, 그리고 북측의 수용여부 등 고려해야 할 측면에 대해서도 매우 구체적으로 분석하고 있었어요. 그러니까 이런이런 조치를 취하면 대북제재를 이겨낼 수 있다든가 그런식으로 굉장히 구체적인 보고가 있었습니다. 유엔 제재나 5.24 조치 등 대북 제재에 걸리는 항목도 물론 있는데 지원가능한 항목도 있답니다. 그리고 제재를 극복하기 위한 대안 같은 것도 제기하고 있어서 경기도 분들이 북한과의 농업 협력을 위해 여러모로 많이 고민하고 계신다는 것을 알 수가 있었습니다. 이 보고대로 북에 대한 양돈장 지원이 실현된다면 연간 약 840톤의 돼지고기 생산이 기대된다는 것이에요. 이건 약 420만 명분에 달한답니다.
<질문> 그렇게 되면 북한 주민들에게 많은 고기를 공급할 수 있네요?
문성희: 네 그렇지요. 보고에서도 지역주민들에게 양질의 단백질을 공급할 수 있고, 축산분야에서의 남북 상호협력 모델을 구축할 수 있다고 하고 있었어요.
러시아 연해주 우수리스크에는 한국 롯데가 운영하는 거대한 농장이 있다. 사진:문성희
<질문> 축산분야 남북 협력모델을 말씀하셨는데, 최근에 한국에서는 아프리카돼지열병이 발생해 돼지 사육 농가들이 큰 어려움을 겪고 있습니다. 돼지에 발생하는 가축전염병인데 감염을 막을 백신이 없고 치사율이 거의 100%에 이르는 걸로 알려져 있는데요, 이미 북한에서는 지난 5월 북중 접경지역에서 발생해 남으로 확산되고 있다는 지적인데요, 문제는 한국 정부가 북한에 방역 협력을 제안했지만 북한이 외면하고 있다는 점입니다. 한국이 내민 도움의 손길을 북한이 외면하는 배경, 뭐라고 보시는지요?
문성희: 이건 어디까지나 제 추측인데요 아마도 지금은 하여튼간에 한국과의 관계는 모두 단절하고 있는 그런 상황이지 않습니까. 그러니까 다른 나라 같으면 정치적으로 관계가 안 좋더라도 진짜 어려운 그런 방역협력을 받는 것 자체는 받자고 생각하는 데 북한은 그런 측면이 모자란다고 할까, 정치와 떼어놓고 생각하지 않는 거죠. 그러니까 지금 시점에서는 한국의 도움을 어찌됐건 받지 않겠다, 이야기도 안 하겠다, 그런 거 아닐까 싶습니다.
<질문> 그렇다고 해도 북한 평안도에서 돼지가 거의 전멸했다는 얘기까지 나오고 있는데 정치적인 이유로 도움을 받지 않겠다, 이런 생각인 모양이군요.
문성희: 그게 좋다고 저도 생각하지 않는데 아무래도 배경을 생각한다면 그런 것 밖에 생각할 수 없다, 그런거죠.
<질문> 북한의 과거 행태를 볼 때 그렇다는 말씀이신데, 북한의 돼 지 사육에 관해 잠시 언급하셨는데 혹시 북한에서 돼지농장을 방문하신 적이 있으신지요?
문성희: 돼지농장 자체는 방문한 적은 없었습니다. 다만 농촌의 개인 집에서 돼지를 기르고 있는 걸 봤어요. 제가 받은 인상은 돼지를 집단으로 기른다기 보다는 개인적으로 기르고 있다는 거였어요.
<질문> 그런가 하면 북한에서는 이전부터 초식동물 사육을 장려해왔다면서요?
문성희: 북한에서는 ‘풀을 고기로 바꾼다’ 는 구호 아래 풀 먹는 집짐승, 즉 염소나 토끼 등 초식동물을 많이 기를 것을 장려해왔지요. 그러니까 물론 돼지를 기르는 것도 중요한데 북한 실정에 맞추려면 풀 먹는 집짐승의 마리 수를 늘이기 위한 지원이라 할까 조언을 주는 것도 중요한 측면이라고 생각합니다.
<질문> 북한에서 염소가 많이 사육되고 있는가요 그럼?
문성희: 네 2003년에 조선신보 평양특파원을 할 때 염소종축장이라는, 염소를 기르는 목장을 직접 취재한 적이 있어요. 황해북도 봉산군에 2001년에 세워진 종축장인데. 당시 김정일 국방위원장도 현지지도한 유서깊은 곳이에요. 당시 책임기사를 하던 분의 말로는 사료의 원료는 염소들이 좋아하는 풀, 강냉이대, 가둑나무로 이것을 미생물 처리해서 분쇄한다는 말이었어요. 그대로 주는 것이 아니라 가공해서 주니까 염소들도 좋아한다, 뭐 그런 것이었고. 종축장이라고 하는 만큼 여기서는 우량품종을 길러 새끼를 다른 목장에 공급하고 있다는 것이었어요. 2002년에는 황해북도의 시, 군에만 공급하고 있었는데 2003년부터는 북한의 각 도, 시, 군 등 공급 범위도 넓어졌다는 것이었어요. 여기서는 젖 가공용과 고기 생산용의 염소를 함께 기르고 있었습니다. 물론 이제 16년 전의 일이라 여기 종축장이 그대로 있는지는 모르겠는데 북한은 ‘고난의 행군’ 시기인 1990년대 중반부터 계속 ‘풀과 고기를 바꾼다’는 사고방식으로 왔다는 것을 보면 염소 같은 것을 기르는데 도움을 줄 수 있으면 좋겠다는 생각도 들었어요, 돼지보다는. 그리고 이야기가 좀 길어지는데 이 목장에서는 오리도 기르고 있었습니다. 북한에서는 오리 고기를 먹을 수 있는 식당이 많아요. 사람들이 오리 고기를 좋아하는데 오리 기르기에도 도움을 줄 수 있으면 좋을 것 같아요.
<질문> 그 이외에 뭐 주목할 만한 이야기는 있었어요?
문성희: 북한을 도와준다는 식이 아니라 협력을 통해서 ‘윈윈(win win)’, 즉 서로가 승자가 되는 관계를 꾸려야겠다는 의견이 나온 것도 신선했어요. 애초에 ‘북한이 개발도상국이니까 우리가 도와주어야 한다’ㄹ는 발상으로는 안 된다는 것이지요. 북한 사람들도 자존심이 있고 그 자존심을 상하게 하는 일은 절대 있어서는 안 된다는 의견이 나온 것은 좋았다고 생각합니다. 오랫동안 북한을 방문했던 저도 같은 인식을 갖고 있어요. 북한 사람들은 자력갱생으로 여러 어려움을 이겨내 온 그런 자존심이 있기 때문에 “함께 해 나가자”는 입장을 고수하는 게 중요하다고 생각합니다.
<질문> 오늘 말씀 감사합니다.
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